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Does orgonite go stale?

 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Does orgonite go stale? Reply with quote

Does orgonite go stale?

Interesting subject about orgonite, so I decided I will post the emails between someone I will call CM for now and myself.


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Hi!
I gridded my yard and home and cars and workplace with around 40+ TB's and HHgs over the summer.
There was a big initial difference in the quality of the energy - it got much better and was very serene.
But over the past few months the energy has degenerated to an icky
ticky energy. We are getting sick to. I'm concerened for my young
daughter. Things are not right here.
Why doesn't my orgonite treat the the energy? Does the orgonite need
to be cleansed?
Anything you can tell me would be appreciated.
BTW, I live in a snow state - does winter effect orgonite?
Thanks,
CM

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello CM,
Did you add any charged water to your orgone generators?
I also noticed the old generators I made a few years ago, lost power, so I had to replace them with new ones with charged water. The strongest charged water I experienced until now is Zam zam water, the second one is the water (distiled) charged in our chem-buster.
I still feel the strong energy from my creations with charged water, and do not feel the energy from the ones without water. That leads me to the conclusion that charged water keeps the orgonite matrix alive. I am not the only one reporting these facts. Could be many things causing the "loss of power"... Too much DOR around your place with the generators's energy getting saturated could be one of those.

Why don't you use your mind ( boost/pray) to recharge them? That might work if your intent is strong.
Hope that helps. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Lilly,

Thank you for writing me back. That explains a lot. No, I don’t use
charged water in the TB’s I make. I make TB’s for gifting, but the
stuff I have for my home is stuff I bought with fancy stones and it
wasn’t cheap. I don’t think any of it had charged water.
I did take your advice and pray over several pieces. I think it made a
difference, but I wish I had known this stuff had a limited shelf life.

Thanks again,

CM





Hi CM, Smile

Charged water!!! Very controversial!!!

Many people will fail to discuss it, why? They probably have their own interests. Unfortunately orgonite does go stale and you are not the first one to notice this... Water as I said keeps the orgonite matrix alive, and not only that, it has the power to amplify and magnify the "orgonite" (resin , xtals and metal mix).


I do not know who is adding water to their orgone creations but you can always ask.


I suggest you read few articles on our forum regarding charged water:

How to make orgone generators with charged water http://www.thewomenwarriors.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=285


Charged water http://www.thewomenwarriors.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=271

The Healing Powers of Zam zam Water http://www.thewomenwarriors.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=239


also read my reply to Donna's post

http://www.thewomenwarriors.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=375 which I am reposting it for you:



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Donna you really like gifting people and interacting with them...

You are linking orgone and orgonite to few websites and talk about orgonite vendors which don’t use charge water in the orgonite matrix. I would like to add the importance of charged water in orgonite just in case people don’t know about it. In my opinion charged water in orgone generators is a MUST.
There is also a tutorial on how to make orgone generators with charged water: http://thewomenwarriors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=285

I am talking on behalf of many energy healers, gifted psychics, sensitive people.
The above people told me that gifts with charged water are not comparable with the ones without charged water. They are much more stronger.

Folks, I strongly suggest if you buy from vendors, buy from ones who add the charged water or ask them to add charged water for your gifts.

This is what I believe and talk from my experience: orgonite without charged water can only do so much and it can be corrupted. In time it will become saturated with DOR (dead orgone) and cannot do the work anymore.
I am backing this up with facts and Constantin is my witness. We made lots of orgonite gifts (not hundreds, thousands). The orgonite without the charged water did its work and neutralized the harmful energy around towers but after a while the towers started to transmit harmful energy again. We started to have headaches next to the towers we gifted before.
We were even thinking someone picked up our gifts but that was not the case, because we checked few gifted places and the gifts were still there.
We thought maybe they have some sort of technology which can neutralize the gifts or the gifts get overloaded with harmful polluted energy.


After experimenting with charged water we noticed the gifts neutralize the harmful energy from the towers and don’t become saturated so easily. So the missing link was charged water. Well… we all know that 1/3 of our planet is water. Our bodies are 75% percent water. Water is the best cleanser. You cannot survive long without water. Water has oxygen in it. Water cures many illnesses. I am talking about a good pure charged water and not polluted or corrupted one.


Being creative when making orgonite is fun.
People are using their creativity and that’s what bad boys hate - being creative and using our abilities. By making orgonite the old way, (the only way) you will become stagnated, blocked.
Blockages and stagnant energy will attract dark energy, illnesses. Always look for new ideas, do your own research and experiments, start using your brain, intuition and always listen to your heart. I believe that Wilhelm Reich would be happy to see that the work he started is carried on and improved. We need to move forward people, be inventive and creative, the energy needs to flow, that’s how we’ll win this game - yes I believe is a game, played by the ones who rule this world.

Quite a few people sent me orgonite gifts for testing. Some were stronger then the others, the ones with zam zam water stood out, there were amazingly powerful. Kelly Laozu gave me two Tbs to test. The one with the Cloudbuster charged water was a really but kicker, so I started using the water since then.

David makes orgonite from pine tree resin, I believe they have a very good frequency as they are made from natural pine tree. Pine trees have an amazing energy and they are well known for cleaning ones aura.

Alicia uses ash, frankincense and/or myrrh and charged water in her gifts and she told me the gifts are very strong.

Yasmine and Faith are using zam zam in their gifts and the energy is amazingly strong.

Tony started to use carrots in his gifts. The frequency of his gifts made me giggle.

Ken Adachi uses ash (anghihutra) in his gifts if he has requests from his customers.

Tony G charges his resin and he uses zam zam water.

Some people use charcoal which is a very good energy cleanser.

I use my intuition when I make gifts. I use zam zam water charged in our cloudbuster, different gemstones and crystals according to what is needed, sometimes I use calendula flowers. Sometimes I add essential oils because of their wonderful frequency. I always pray, smile and boost when make my gifts and when I make dolphin balls I connect to the cetaceans.


I have a very strong feeling that strong charged water in the orgone matrix is related to free energy. I believe that every country in the world has its own strong charged water. Where to look for it? Very old churches or monasteries, holly places etc. I believe that zam zam is one of them but I also feel there are other places where you can find similar strong charged water which is pure and uncorrupted.

Charged water: you don’t have to trust me, you need to see/feel it for yourself.
All the best,
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HDear Lilly,

Thank you very much for the additional information! Its very useful.

I actualy had some additional pertinant comments, and will email them
when I have a free moment.

Thanks again - you are very nice!

CM




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Reactivating stale orgonite - a report

Dear Lilly,

First, thank you very much for taking the time to present the
information about charged water and orgonite. I very much appreciate it! There is a lot to learn here.

BTW, I’m not a heavy gifter like most folks are. Rather, my skill is doing astral combat. I use the orgonite to protect my home, and I also have made sure that the local area is gifted. When it comes to gifting I make my own TBs, and I will learn to use charged water now. Thanks!


I’d like to share with you my observations with trying to re-activate my home orgonite collection. BTW, simply take this as my observations – I really don’t know how conclusive any of this is.

For starters, I did pray over several pieces, and there was a small rejuvenating effect. It may simply be that I’m not a very good pray-er.
Here is the full report on what I did and the effects I observed. I think you will find this interesting.


To start at the beginning - I’ve got about 40+ pieces of purchased orgonite placed strategically around my house and yard. I came to the
dawning conclusion a week or so ago that none of these pieces are
working. No OR. Dead or stale. The reason I became concerned is because the energy at my place has been steadily deteriorating since winter hit.
Almost a black miasma of energy. And of course, we’ve all been sick
here for about 5 weeks. The orgonite, which is supposed to process dead
energy is dead itself. On closer inspection, each orgonite item appears to be a holding field of DOR. Each has a 6 to 8 foot field of DOR around it like a balloon. Of course, having put orgonite under all the beds, arm chairs, and couches assures that we pretty much live in a DOR field. The outside items have also become static DOR fields.

I assume that whatever the problem is, its only a matter of orgone physics.

I put out some feelers and the only recommendation I received was the
recommendation to pray over the orgonite. I did so over several pieces,
and there was indeed a rejuvenating effect, although small.

Interestingly, there is one orgonite item I have that still works, and
works fine. It’s a pendent that I wear. Second, I had read from DB - the man who’s instructions I used for home orgonite placement - that he had said you have to ground indoor orgonite or the matrix becomes saturated with DOR and quits. I did not follow this procedure as no one else mentioned the concept, and it seemed like a huge project to wire 40+ pieces to ground.
The outdoor pieces did not require a ground according to DB. Bear in mind that DB lives in temperate LA, and I live in snow country.

Revisiting this it occurred to me that what was occurring in my house could be an ungrounded-orgonite, DOR-saturation situation. The item
that I wear and that still works is grounded because I do grounding, I
reasoned. The outdoor pieces are buried no more then 4 to 6 inches deep.
In the winter they are isolated from ground by the frost level, I reasoned.


Reasoning as well from the fact that the pendent remained clear via (I supposed) my personal grounding exercises, that the other items could be re-grounded via mind exercises. This was the intent of the prayer recommendation, I believe. So I went into deep trance and connected with a DORgonite item in my living room. I drew down a thread of the DOR field from the unit all the way down through the floor and basement and deep into the earth. Having done so I had the perception that the DOR field collapsed instantly down the drain like a toilet flush.
Upon this, the orgonite still remained non-functional. I then gave it a prod with my mind and pushed some energy through it. Upon this, it kicked-in and began processing DOR to OR again. Over the next few days I did the procedure with all the orgonite around the house and outside. The outside items behaved the same way to this mental grounding and re-activating. The result being that the darkness in my home is clearing out and good energy is gathering. I would expect our health to return as well, and am watching that as a waymarker.

I hope you find this interesting.

Thanks again for your time and for being nice!

CM

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CM,
Sorry for the late email, been busy.
First, Thank you for your nice words. I believe in compassion and people being nice and polite to each other - (to respond to your nice words). I hope you and your family are much better.


I find your comments regarding orgonite very interesting, in fact I had similar thoughts.


For about a week or so, the planes are chemtrailing our sky like crazy. The spraying got really heavy in different parts of the country as well. The DOR from chemtrails make me tired, depressed, sad etc.
I fight this by staying active, usually dancing makes me happy. Few days ago after my dancing routine Wink I went to the park. The sky was covered, bad orgone. As I was riding my bike, boosting and praying for the sky to clear up, the sylphs appeared and started to clean the sky above. Very Happy


Orgonite can only do so much, It’s our minds who actually do "the work". I don’t wear my pendant all the time. I only wear it when I needed it, as I train myself not to be dependant on “tools” using the power of my mind. However, Orgonite is a great tool used for our spiritual growth.

Now imagine if many people are waking up becoming OR generators over night? The DOR created by chemtrails, HAARP, beaming etc will be in vain.

Have you watched the movie “the Secret”? Its’ about “law of attraction“. This comes to mind: the more people are waking up and know what’s going on, the more DOR created, first. Why?
Because people finding out about chemtrails get depressed, they just discovered they’ve been lied to, cheated etc. No more Santa. Truth hurts!

There are two ways to fight the DOR/evil. By becoming transparent - ignoring it, and by transmuting it. In order to transmute it, once needs to learn how to be transparent first. Only those who really know what real “LOVE” is can transmute it.


I believe we, human are orgone generators. If we wake up and change our vibration into the supreme LOVE vibration we can transform DOR into OR. Orgonite- only does so much, and it works if we are aligned with it. We human ARE VERY POWERFUL, we can make things happen if we tap into our supreme frequency. I think that’s why you don’t feel any DOR from the pendant, because you are aligned with it, you already became an orgone generator and I agree with you, grounding does work.


Warmest wishes,
Lilly
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Lilly,

We are doing much better, thank you! My daughter is fine now, and
I’m ok, and my wife is improving. Actually, a good part of my own health
problem was that I’ve been unwittingly getting low level carbon
monoxide poisoning at work for the last 5 or more weeks.



I agree with you about us humans being – or being able to become –
our own orgone generators. Isn’t chi kung a form of that? And as
for moving beyond the tools, that was something I learned. That’s something I should be thinking about with orgonite as well. Thanks for reminding me!

A friend of mine is an engineer with a science background. Some years
ago he built a number of ORACs and was able to demonstrate results. He
has only recently heard about orgonite and is curious about it.

I was discussing what I’ve experienced lately about my orgonite going
stale, and how different things like praying over it and mentally grounding it, re-invigorated it.
He said it reminded him of something Reich called the Y Factor. Reich never came out and identified what Y was, but from conversations my friend has had with Reich’s old cronies, it is apparent that the Y Factor stands for the YOU Factor.

The special ingredient to orgone devices is “you.”


Both your advice to pray over the orgonite, and my try with mental grounding, are both examples of the YOU Factor re-invigorating the orgonite. Without some form of human input form time to time, both the ORACs and orgonite go stale. I though you might like to know that your advice is grounded in Reich orgone physics. Putting chaRged water in the orgonite might be like sealing human prayer-energy in the orgonite, which is the Y Factor at work.

Thank you!
Lilly

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